Searching for Muses: More Dilettantes Looking for Birds and Fish

More people confusing the meaning of “Biblical” and “in the Bible:”

  • dead birds is this in the bible
  • does bible tell of birds falling from the sky
  • bible study dead birds
  • does the bible say about dead birds in the end times
  • scripture in bible that talks about birds falling dead from the sky
  • arkansas dead birds biblical
  • what does the bible say about birds at the end of the world

And last but not least:

  • what does the bible say about the dead birds and fish in arkansas?

Listen, people, stop searching for biblical references to falling birds and fish dying.  They aren’t in there.  And there certainly isn’t anything in the Bible about Arkansas!  Really?  You searched for “dead birds and fish in arkansas” as something that would be in the Bible?  Do you realize that the Bible is a collection of books written over a period of 800 – 1000 years and that the last book that has made it into the current canonical list was written, terminus ad quem, 150 CE?  That’s 1,861 years ago.  Arkansas was founded in 1836.  There is a difference of 1,686 years.  Trust me, Arkansas won’t be in the Bible.

Now read carefully; there are ten plagues in the Bible.  None of those plagues involved fish nor birds.  Frogs?  Yes.  Locusts?  Yes.  Birds and fish?  Absolutely not.  So stop looking for reasons to be afraid.

Though, there is that pesky verse from Zephaniah 1:3…

“I will sweep away both man and beast;
I will sweep away the birds in the sky
and the fish in the sea—
and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.”

“When I destroy all mankind
on the face of the earth,”
declares the LORD…

But if you believe this applies to Arkansas and Louisiana…well, you’re a dilettante.  There is nothing in there about falling birds or fish washing ashore.  The Hebrew is:

אָסֵ֨ף אָדָ֜ם וּבְהֵמָ֗ה אָסֵ֤ף עֹוף־הַשָּׁמַ֙יִם֙ וּדְגֵ֣י הַיָּ֔ם וְהַמַּכְשֵׁלֹ֖ות אֶת־הָרְשָׁעִ֑ים וְהִכְרַתִּ֣י אֶת־הָאָדָ֗ם מֵעַ֛ל פְּנֵ֥י הָאֲדָמָ֖ה נְאֻם־יְהוָֽה׃

Where by the word אָסֵ֨ף (asaph) can mean ‘gather’ (for a specific purpose) or ‘remove’–it does not mean to ‘give them heart attacks in mid-air and force them to fall from the sky.’  It definitely doesn’t mean that God will wash the fish ashore.

The LXX yields the same results:

ἐκλιπέτω ἄνθρωπος καὶ κτήνη ἐκλιπέτω τὰ πετεινὰ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καὶ οἱ ἰχθύες τῆς θαλάσσης καὶ ἐξαρῶ τοὺς ἀνθρώπους ἀπὸ προσώπου τῆς γῆς λέγει κύριος

Whereby the word ἐκλιπέτω means “fail,” “forsake,” or “pass over.”  Essentially to ignore, thereby abandon, thus failing someone/thing.  If you want to search for wildlife in literature, try Ranger Rick.  That’s probably more appropriate reading for you anyway…

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19 Responses

  1. I am going to ask the same question to you i asked on my
    blog. If Jesus were to walk among us today would you recognize him
    or crucify him? I am not saying this is or isn’t the hand of the
    lord but i can say this. Oh ye of little faith. You should not even
    have made a reply about the bible if you don’t believe in it. and
    the words pesky verse speak clearly that you are a non believer.
    No-one has bothered you. Leave others to believe what they want to.
    Mind your own business.

  2. Your a moron. You”ll be the first one crying , crapping
    your pants, and running for cover when the apocolypse comes. If you
    werent envolved in writing the Bible, shut up.

  3. Rose,

    It is clear to me that you did not read my blog post carefully enough. If you had, you’d note that (a) there is no way you could possibly infer from this that I’m a nonbeliever, (b) that I have no faith, and (c) that I don’t believe in the Bible.

    How you came to these conclusions from a post about searches which lead to my blog is anyone’s guess, but I would venture to say that you’re one of the 500 other people who viewed my blog today while Googling one of the phrases above. If so, that tells me a lot about your level of knowledge about the Bible. Perhaps you need to spend more time reading it and less time criticizing those of us actively engaged in teaching its principles and educating those–like yourself–who have slim to no grasp of its contents, its exegetical value, its theological value, and its literary value. Had you any such concept of these, you’d not have been scouring the interwebs trying to find the answers. Instead, you’d know, as I do, that only dilettantes (i.e., those who pretend to have an invested interest in something, but of it know nothing) would dare to presume that there would be anything in the Bible that remotely resembles the events happening in Arkansas and Louisiana.

  4. Ronnie,

    It’s “you’re”, not “your”. And I won’t be running for cover when the “apocolypse(sic)” (did you mean ‘apocalypse’?) comes, since exegetically, theologically, and etymologically the apocalypse is not a real, future event. You see, Ronnie, apocalypse comes from Ἀποκάλυψις (in the Greek) which means merely ‘revelation’, as in a revelation of a hidden truth, kept secret from mankind. If you were at all aware of its theological meaning, Ἀποκάλυψις is a state at which, upon acceptance of gift and the glory of God’s grace and his sacrifice, the hidden knowledge of his covenant is shared. Paul uses the word to describe this very event over and over, like Romans 16:25:

    Now to him who is able to establish you according to my Good News and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret through long ages…

    Greek:

    Τῷ δὲ δυναμένῳ ὑμᾶς στηρίξαι κατὰ τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν μου καὶ τὸ κήρυγμα Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ κατὰ ἀποκάλυψιν μυστηρίου χρόνοις αἰωνίοις σεσιγημένου

    And Romans 8:19:

    For the creation waits with eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed.

    Greek:

    ἡ γὰρ ἀποκαραδοκία τῆς κτίσεως τὴν ἀποκάλυψιν τῶν υἱῶν τοῦ θεοῦ ἀπεκδέχεται.

    (cf. Gal. 1:12, 16; 1 Cor. 14:6; Phil. 3:15; 2 Cor. 12:1; etc…)

    Also, I am not sure anyone alive today is “envolved” (did you mean to write ‘involved?’) with writing the Bible; so who do you trust to give you the correct information? How interesting that your standard for judging the accuracy of a post about the Bible is based solely on whether or not the author of the post was involved with writing the Bible, yet you so eagerly forget that your searching the internet, which did not exist at the time the authors wrote the books which make up the Bible, to find answers about it. I am amazed at how little you thought this comment through, being as you arrived at my blog through a Google search. Was Google, Inc. involved with writing the Bible? Silly dilettante.

    I’m quite surprised, given the comment you gave here, you managed to spell “moron” correctly. That is one achievement, no doubt. Feel free to brag about it.

  5. Damn you Tom! I nearly spit my Big Red all over my lap top at the last question! I can’t believe ( ok yes I can) someone actually physically typed that question!!! LMAO
    My only gripe with this one is if anyone arrived at your blog using any one of those Q’s then I seriously doubt they’d understand a concept such as “terminus ad quem” But then again, your blog seeks to educate and clarify and so I can only hope that they rushed with the same eagerness and Googled it!! Thanks for the hearty laugh!!

  6. You are wrong. Search the scriptures for the truth. It must be spritually discerned. The end times are here.

  7. Sure. They’ve been saying that for 2,000 years (actually, longer, if you read the scriptures); God is running a little late. After 2,000 years, I’m pretty sure I’m not the one whose got it wrong. But you’re welcome to prepare for the end; you can believe whatever you want.

  8. [...] Searching for Muses: More Dilettantes Looking for Birds and Fish [...]

  9. Thank you for letting me know where I could find the answers. The verse is not pesky at all it is in fact very clear. So I believe your brilliant in guiding those less fortunate of your Bibical wisdom to find the answers in Zephiniah! (I would like to share more because this event tonight helped my daughter, her boyfriend, and his mother open the Bible tonight and read together the truth. The strange thing that happened though is we found out that the King James version Bible my daughter was giving was missing several chapters and one was Zephiniah and that Psalms had been put in her Bible twice it was a flawed Bible. I had to go get anther one that was shamefully hidden in my closet to read the truth so don’t just read this part of Zephiniah keep reading the entire chapter it is full of the truth and yes the end is near !
    I will sweep away both man and beast;
    I will sweep away the birds in the sky
    and the fish in the sea—
    and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.”

    “When I destroy all mankind
    on the face of the earth,”
    declares the LORD…

  10. Nancy,

    Thanks but there is nothing in Zephaniah which would lead anyone to believe that the world is near its end. It certainly has nothing to do with current events; you need to read the post again. It’s a pesky verse because dilettantes like you don’t know enough about the verse, the book, of the Bible to make any sort of sound judgement about it and distort verses like this to mean whatever you feel like it means (which, while an attribute of its longevity as a text, doesn’t make your interpretation remotely close to factual, since you clearly do not get the history of the text in question and the books of the Bible as a whole). And, for the sake of all things, if you’re going to try to tell someone to read the Bible more, while you’re doing it at least learn to spell the book names correctly! (Note: it’s not Zephiniah)

  11. Tom, first, let me identify myself as a conservative bible believing Christian. I believe that the text is the Inspired Word of God. Especially the part where Paul calls the Galatians foolish. Of course, that is a lot nicer language that I would like to use for some of your commentators. Lollards.

    There is no such as ‘End Times’. that is an escapist notion cooked up to sell books and Glenn Beck style End O’ Days canned meat. The misuse by these people is as bad as the way that Herod misused it or Satan, if not worse.

    Anyway, to sum – I think you are correct and that some of your commentators should read more Scripture and less internet.

  12. This is clearly why we get along so well…that, and we both blame the GOP takeover.

  13. Now, if there were ever a sign of the End Times, it is the GOP takeover. That and Sarah Palin becoming President

  14. I wish WordPress allowed you to ‘like’ comments.

  15. [...] Searching for Muses: More Dilettantes Looking for Birds and Fish [...]

  16. Tom, I too came across this site via google, I found your
    article to be every interesting and informative. I thought I may be
    interested in reading more of your work/blogs articles etc… until
    I began to read the comments and your how you respond to them with
    such a pompous condescending attitude, you sound like a real jerk
    signed Dilettante :)

  17. I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE A CORRECTION (because I’m
    certain that my mistake is all you will notice and will point out
    due to your inability to handle criticism or the possibility of
    others disagreeing with you……”until I began to read the
    comments *and your response* to them with such a pompous
    condescending attitude, you sound like a real jerk signed
    Dilettante :)”

  18. Hi Lynn, If I come across like a jerk, then chances are the
    person deserved it. If they were more civil, then I would be
    too.

  19. [...] those concerned citizens out there who think this is the end of the world:  Don’t worry.  There is nothing biblical about [...]

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